Violet Doll / Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

[MikeyPooPants]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

That's too bad but they all can't be Gisele, she's got the greatest attitude!

Yeah, Gisele is great. Shes has a great personality and attitude, but Im sure she has her bad days too. Besides, Im sure she doesnt have a league of dildos that dedicate their free time to fucking with her.

When Violet was visiting Gisele last time, Gisele even noticed and commented that when they used Violets account to cam, all these people came in just to be dicks... but it didnt happen when they used Giseles account.


But anyone that has been following Violets chat lately would know that her attitude has changed quite a bit. I mean, shes still Violet... which comes with a bit of a 'tude, which a lot of people actually LIKE, and she still doesnt hesitate to tell someone to go fuck themselves, but she clearly isnt letting douche bags spoil her mood as much. Ive been pretty impressed by the changes shes made.

I actually kind of envy someone who can tell customers to fuck off. I mean, I think for the most part weve all had jobs that involve having to deal with customers, and wish we didnt have to sit there with a shit eating grin dealing with their stupid ass bullshit... and fantasize about saying what we really want to. She just happens to have a job where she can tell people how fucking stupid and annoying they are. I dont think Id waste that opportunity if I had it. People can chalk it up to a bad attitude or whatever, but theyre lying if they say they dont wish they could do the same thing.


So people can say "this girl or that girl has a better attitude and blah blah blah" but believe me, just because they arent telling you what a stupid asshole you are to your face, doesnt mean they arent thinking it and saying it in private. At least with Violet you have a pretty good chance of knowing how she actually feels about you.

But I guess its true that ignorance is bliss. :dunno:

 

[D-rock]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

I think a big part of Violet's problem was she was so sensitive and touchy that it drew jerks to her because they think they can mess with her more than other people and get her irritated.

If she would have handled it better since the beginning and let the more trivial things roll off her back she would probably have never had those people pop out of the woodwork like they do now in the first place.

 

[D-rock]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

If you're not a fan of how Violet defends herself then leave her room? It's that simple.

I don't think it has to do with being a fan of it or not as much as it's objective observation, and probably the truth.

...which leads to something else in that things would also have went better for her if she handled constructive criticism better in the past and listened to some people she blew off that gave her honest heartfelt advice.

I even admire her independence and her feistiness. I just wished she would have channeled that with more wisdom earlier on.

 

[MikeyPooPants]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

People need to keep their "constructive criticisms" to themselves. No one asked to be criticized because the majority of people with "constructive criticism" dont even know what the fuck theyre talking about.

Its all completely uninformed crap by a bunch of people who think theyre smarter than they are. Not to mention most of it is hypocritical bullshit. Its pretty easy to sit back and criticize the way someone else does something or spew a bunch of "how it SHOULD have been handled" hindsight bullshit when, if they lived in the other persons shoes (in this case Violets clear heels) then they would react just as badly, if they could even keep moving forward in the first place.

"If SHE would have just done this, or if SHE would have just done that"... if guys wouldnt take their frustrations out on women they cant have, then we wouldnt be having this conversation. I find it pretty funny that somehow its Violets fault that her attitude sucks, and not the fact that shes been getting bombarded with "criticisms" and insults for something like 5 years.


Id like to see how any of the experts, who have SO MUCH professional insight on how much better off Violet would be if she would just blah blah blah, would handle being criticized and insulted and compared to other people every day all day at THEIR jobs. Oh wait, I think I do know... theyd probably go sit on the internet and harass women and/or 'constructively criticize' them. Circle of life, I guess.


The bottom line is that Violet gets fucked with by a bunch of sad little angry losers, then after she tells them what sad little angry losers they are and tells them to go fuck themselves, she gets insulted and critiqued by the same sad little angry losers who mask it in "constructive criticism".

She doesnt fulfill your delusional wishes that these women actually give half a shit about you, so you have to sit back and pick her apart, trying to turn her into the vapid smiling giggling idiot you wish she was. Where as if you were half a man, youd turn around and go find someone who you do like and ignore Violet and her attitude.

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

TMO, enough "behavioral discussion" has taken place over here. why don't we get back to the main topic of the thread?

Let's relaunch the thread once again: Let us all admire the beauty that she represents.
http://photos.freeones.com/v_babes/Violet_Erotica_001/html/photo_004.shtml

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

Well ........................... MOVE ON.

The way things are moving here, this thread should be moved to talk section.

And surprise, surprise, a subtle hint just won't do the job. What we need a sledge hammer. :horse:

 

[D-rock]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

I'm will be VERY upset if I can no longer defend myself against, or call out the people in this thread, especially if they use nonsense, think in logical fallacies, ignore reality because it suits them or hurts them or another person's feelings, even a models feeling (who no longer visits anyhow), or they assume things about me that aren't true. I can't alter the truth or reality. I can only expose it. I don't care if somebody else doesn't like that or doesn't like reality or doesn't like somebody else to be criticized because of that.

To be honest, I also won't be very happy if a model is going to have a blanket protection or even broad ranging protection from criticism, which nobody should have, in this thread (or any thread on FreeOnes) especially when it's backed up by reality and the truth and well thought out. If somebody is just trying to be a asshole or is lying that's one thing, but honest well thought out arguments are another.

I will have my opinion, especially when I'm probably right. I don't care who else on this Earth doesn't like hearing it.

I will relent though, ONLY because I have a measure of respect and friendship for dickdenice, and he has now personally asked us to on this thread. I'm not happy about it though.

 

[PhadenCycle]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

ugh. this thread is back to talking.

well, violet fans are nothing if not passionate.

 

[Morfine60]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

I've followed Violet for a few years now and have been (and currently are a member to her site). As beautiful as she is, I do have some problems with her methods. I will stay away from personal attacks and just give some observations for others who may be thinking about joining her site.

In the past few months, she has almost neglected her site, viorotica.com. Half of her blog is advertisements for other models. There have only been 4 new picture sites in the past two months (check it...it's crazy). Her videos, while posted a bit more frequently then pictures are usually just recordings of her member chats, so if you log on to see those, there is barely any new content to find on her site. She also spends a deal of time advertising that she will be on "my free cams" later for even more "fun."

So if you want to see the "fun" chats, you might as well save the membership fee and watch her on my free cams. This was my choice for a while (due to the neglect of her site I signed up for). Let me say again, while she is beautiful and very sexy, I was not very pleased with the chats. She spends about 1/3 of her time just asking for tips. I feel like these are expected on a site like that and that begging constitutes overkill. Just do your thing, chat up the guys, and the tips will come. Another 1/3 of her time she spends getting upset at assholes who post things in her room. It sucks but when you put yourself out there like that on a public site for free, you will get the negativity of some. I wish she would just hit the ban button and continue but more often then not she argues with them and it really takes away from the mood.

The last 1/3 of her time she spends being friendly and doing camgirl type things. While this is the best part, the interruptions the other 2/3rds cause make this time feel "forced." It's hard to watch a girl who seems into it, stop, yell at some guys, get upset, then just snap back into the previous mode.

Anyway, this is probably a TLDR type message, but I've liked her for so many years that I finally felt I should post something up. This seems like a very straight forward assessment of her and her actions. I felt people should know what they are getting into when they join her site and her cam shows. She's quite the visual treat, and I'll probably still visit her shows and maybe join her site in a few months or something but there is just so much "ugh" factor that comes along with it that sometimes just makes her undesirable. Anyway, that's my two cents.

(I hope this doesn't come off as a "i hate her" post, as it is not intended to be, but a fair review of her "goings on." Her forum thread seemed like the appropriate place to post this.)

 

[larss]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

As far as her site goes, she does not own it. She actually has nothing to do with it at all. All ties have been severed, which is why the site is in the state that it is. Blame the webmaster, not the model.
She earns around 10 times more from myfreecams that she ever did from the websites that bore her name, hence no longer having a website, and doing myfreecams instead.

 

[Abbie]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

"All ties have been severed" .. wow, don't know where you heard that. We still talk and 100% support her in whatever direction she decides to take w/ her career. There's no big dramatic split or tales to spin. Just because people move on doesn't mean people need to attempt to start drama that isn't even there.

I adore Violet, have enjoyed working with her, and still think she kicks ass. What she chooses to do (or not do) w/ her site is up to her. Stop trying to be gossip mongers starting stupid crap and leave her alone.

 

[MikeyPooPants]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

I've followed Violet for a few years now and have been (and currently are a member to her site). As beautiful as she is, I do have some problems with her methods. I will stay away from personal attacks and just give some observations for others who may be thinking about joining her site.

In the past few months, she has almost neglected her site, viorotica.com. Half of her blog is advertisements for other models. There have only been 4 new picture sites in the past two months (check it...it's crazy). Her videos, while posted a bit more frequently then pictures are usually just recordings of her member chats, so if you log on to see those, there is barely any new content to find on her site. She also spends a deal of time advertising that she will be on "my free cams" later for even more "fun."

So if you want to see the "fun" chats, you might as well save the membership fee and watch her on my free cams. This was my choice for a while (due to the neglect of her site I signed up for). Let me say again, while she is beautiful and very sexy, I was not very pleased with the chats. She spends about 1/3 of her time just asking for tips. I feel like these are expected on a site like that and that begging constitutes overkill. Just do your thing, chat up the guys, and the tips will come. Another 1/3 of her time she spends getting upset at assholes who post things in her room. It sucks but when you put yourself out there like that on a public site for free, you will get the negativity of some. I wish she would just hit the ban button and continue but more often then not she argues with them and it really takes away from the mood.

The last 1/3 of her time she spends being friendly and doing camgirl type things. While this is the best part, the interruptions the other 2/3rds cause make this time feel "forced." It's hard to watch a girl who seems into it, stop, yell at some guys, get upset, then just snap back into the previous mode.

Anyway, this is probably a TLDR type message, but I've liked her for so many years that I finally felt I should post something up. This seems like a very straight forward assessment of her and her actions. I felt people should know what they are getting into when they join her site and her cam shows. She's quite the visual treat, and I'll probably still visit her shows and maybe join her site in a few months or something but there is just so much "ugh" factor that comes along with it that sometimes just makes her undesirable. Anyway, that's my two cents.

(I hope this doesn't come off as a "i hate her" post, as it is not intended to be, but a fair review of her "goings on." Her forum thread seemed like the appropriate place to post this.)

Basically, as far as her site goes... she did not just up and abandon it. Yeah, its not updating right now... but that certainly isnt due to abandoning, or even neglecting it. Its a very simple matter. She had to make a choice, and she chose to put herself first and get her life in order. And the bottom line is that she just cant do that AND put the time, energy, and money required into her site content.

A lot more goes into making the content than people really understand. Its not just standing in front of a camera, having pictures snapped, and uploading them to a site (well, thats pretty much all that goes into some models content, but not Violets). A lot of time can go into just getting ready for one of those shoots, the shoots themselves take a lot of time, and then theres editing involved afterwards, which Violet does herself... and thats just time. Hair, makeup, clothes, photographers, traveling, props etc... it all costs a LOT of money. Then theres fees that go into being involved in a site that come out of the final paycheck. I think a lot of people assume that having one of these sites makes you a lot of money. I mean it makes sense... its porn, its on the internet, and theres no shortage of horny pervs on the internet with some cash to spend... but its not always that simple. It can easily cost as much, or even more, to do the content for the site than the site itself even makes until it starts to take off. So basically the site wasnt supporting her, or just cost her money.


And when youre sinking all your time and energy into a site, and trying to maintain any kind of personal life, you dont really have the time or energy to do something that WILL support you. Bills add up, debt adds up, and then youre in the situation Violet is in. She has a lot of debt, and its not from living some lavish lifestyle. She owes a LOT in medical bills because she had a run of poor health and has no health insurance (because she cant afford it) and she helps her family out with money when she can. Not to mention debt she ran up trying to support herself while doing the site full time.

Its not a matter of laziness or just deciding she doesnt want to do a site anymore... its a matter of her deciding that shes just going to get her life in order so that she CAN do stuff like focus on her site and make it as good as she can. I personally applaud her dedication to having a site, and I admire her insistence to doing a certain level of quality of content. Shes actually pretty bummed about not being able to do content. Its something she enjoys doing, she just cant right now.



And as far as MFC goes, Im pretty much just going to touch on one thing you said... because Ive already gone on and on about people complaining about how she handles assholes coming into her chat fucking with her.

"She spends about 1/3 of her time just asking for tips. I feel like these are expected on a site like that and that begging constitutes overkill. Just do your thing, chat up the guys, and the tips will come."

Im sorry, but that is just fucking retarded. I do respect the fact that you posted with some sense of decency, but you clearly have no idea what youre talking about and are completely out of line even saying that. The tips will come? MFC is full of some of the absolute cheapest mother fuckers there are. If you really think that 90 percent of those guys are going to tip without being told to just because its EXPECTED, you are out of your mind. There are THOUSANDS of guys on that site who dont even sign up for a free name, let alone get tokens. And at any given time, there are HUNDREDS of people with premium accounts just sitting there... not spending... not even TALKING. Theres thousands of people just sitting there not doing ANYTHING. You know why? Because they just go there to play the waiting game for a girl to just do the 'camgirl thing' and pray someone has the decency to throw them 2 dollars, (only half of which even goes to her).

And I love how guys always refer to it as "begging". If you went to a restaurant, they arent going to just give you food and HOPE you decide to pay them. They hand you a check... is that begging? If you brought your car to a mechanic, is he going to fix it and just hope you decide to pay for it because its EXPECTED? No. You pay for something, and you get something.

Telling someone youll do something in exchange for payment isnt begging. Its pretty fucking reasonable if you ask me.

 

[Abbie]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

We will let everyone know what changes we will be making viorotica probably late next week We're still working out the nuts and bolts of things.

 

[XoGisele]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

Just now viewing this thread and before heading to bed I just had to say a few words from the bottom of my heart cause I have known violet for many years now both as just a fellow "admirer"/ co worker and now as my closest buddy..
Violet is honestly one of the kindest people I have met... Despite my genuine southern hospitality I display during my cam shows.. I as well have many a moments where I just want to scream, cry and leave the industry for good based on the constant harassment we as models face during shows. Violet has even been the voice of reason for me during my many freakouts.. Just because my "personality" is more on the timid side and Violet's is more of a "tell ya how it is".. doesn't mean I have a better personality.. I admire her for standing up for herself and in a way she has helped me to become less of a doormat and I'd like to think she left Texas with a bit of southern bell syndrome LoL..

my point being.. Violet, myself and every other model in this industry has had their share of freak out moments.. some are more blunt and will tell you to your face, and some like myself will bury it inside for a private freak out session... Neither is a correct method because they are one in the same..

As MikeyPooPants mentioned.. I can vouch for my bff Violet and the rare level of harassment she has been the victim of. Some of the members of our group shows were some of the worst I have seen in my 5 yrs of being a webcam model. It brought me to tears hearing them say such horrible things about not only myself, but to my best friend.

Before Violet and I clicked as real life buddies, I was just like everyone and in awe of her work, beauty and style (and still am).. tattoos or not, blonde, brunette or bald.. she is gorgeous. In real life she has this sweet, quite innocence about her. She makes me look like a bitch LOL.. bottom line is I know, just as all of her true fans and following do, that she is gorgeous inside and out. Cliche but fuckin true

I know I speak on behalf of Violet and myself even when I say, we truly appreciate all of those out there who are fans, admires, members and even fellow models who respect us, have our back and enjoy all the hard work we put into our solo sites, cam shows and all interaction in between. We love doing what we do and despite the douche bag ex boyfriends, previous co-workers, jealous hometown onlookers and anonymous random haters... we do genuinely love the art of modeling and the interaction with those who truly care. So forgive our outbursts because although we are a fantasy of perfection online.. truth is we are real life women with hormones, bad days and tempers that can be pushed too far

<3 u Vio! Im off to bed.. everyone play nice or ill motorboat you blind
xoxo Gisele

(forgive my typos.. its 3am and iam still hungover from Vegas kthx)

 

[larss]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

"All ties have been severed" .. wow, don't know where you heard that. We still talk and 100% support her in whatever direction she decides to take w/ her career. There's no big dramatic split or tales to spin. Just because people move on doesn't mean people need to attempt to start drama that isn't even there.

I adore Violet, have enjoyed working with her, and still think she kicks ass. What she chooses to do (or not do) w/ her site is up to her. Stop trying to be gossip mongers starting stupid crap and leave her alone.

I apologise if I got the wrong end of the stick from what she was saying on MFC. She did state that she no longer has a website, so I took this at face value.

 

[josh21_1987]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

I feel that this thread should get back on track of posting beautiful things orientated around the stunning Violet. I personally am a member of her site and yes over the last few months it has fallen apart, however as Abby has stated things should be back on track soon.

As for the Mfc issues,How I see it, is that there are some people out their whos specific pleasure seems to take out the negativity they feel about themselves, on Violet. As a result when Violet reacts to these idiots, it creates an overall negative experience for fans etc and as a result more people seem to get pissed off at her for some reason, my question here is how would you guys react?

The soultion I feel is for everyone to remember why they admire Violet and her beauty and when these negative people decide to hate on her, tell them to blatently fuck off, because in the end everyone loses. (Well I say this, but Im still undecided as to whether Giseles death by motorboating is considered losing...)

Just think, if everyone was positive to Violet , think how much positivity we would all recieve in turn from her. Then everyone Wins. I think this thread has forgotten its purpose in that it essentially is a place where we can all come and share our love for Violet via compliments and showcasing her beauty via Photos, Videos etc. Now it also has become a place of arguing and negativty. So i for one think we should all start being happy and positive and get it back on track!

Remember, no one gets anywhere in life by being negative, its all about the love people. So lets start loving again.

 

[agrees316]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

Model hating and insulting is a growing trend these days it appears.

 

[Abbie]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

Sorry, Lars. I shouldn't have jumped down your throat like that.

I just don't want to see drama or false rumors going around. We love Violet and certainly don't want people to think there is any bad blood or anything else going on.

I promise I'll give everyone an update after I talk with her later this week.

In the meantime, I'll post some pics later on to bring some love to this thread

 

[bruno11]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

Too much blah blah, not enough boobies...

http://iloveviolet.net/

Dang...

 

[larss]

Re: Very Violet / Violet Erotica / Viorotica

Sorry, Lars. I shouldn't have jumped down your throat like that.

I just don't want to see drama or false rumors going around. We love Violet and certainly don't want people to think there is any bad blood or anything else going on.

I promise I'll give everyone an update after I talk with her later this week.

In the meantime, I'll post some pics later on to bring some love to this thread

:thumbsup: