So Why Did Kamala Harris Lose?

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

People are pointing fingers. Who gets the blame for this fabulous disaster? You can't fix a problem until you realize you have a problem. I see a number of bitter racists and manphobes who are not being very constructive with the healing.

 

[gmase]

Can't we just use this https://www.freeones.com/forums/thr...statistics-campaign-timelines-debates.998668/

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Can't we just use this https://www.freeones.com/forums/thr...statistics-campaign-timelines-debates.998668/

This is more betterer and more specific. We could have kept the other Trump threads in there too, I imagine.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

For some reason Australia is really enjoying this too.

 

[gmase]

Harris lost because Trump got more electoral college votes than her.

You assume Biden goes for a second term. I believe he's a transitional president who steps aside in 2024 for Kamala. He'd be 82 heading to 86 by the end of his term.

I will also blame Joe Biden for hanging on too long. He should have announced after the 2022 mid-terms that he was retiring. If the 2020 primaries showed anything, it was that Kamala was a weak candidate. If not for the late notice, someone else would have stepped in.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Harris lost because Trump got more electoral college votes than her.


I will also blame Joe Biden for hanging on too long. He should have announced after the 2022 mid-terms that he was retiring. If the 2020 primaries showed anything, it was that Kamala was a weak candidate. If not for the late notice, someone else would have stepped in.

Gmase, do you think other Democrats should stop pointing fingers blaming and shaming people based on race and gender for Kamala losing so badly? Seems people were already alienated enough so why put a stick in their eye in addition? What positives can be achieved by dividing your potential voters? We need 2 strong parties. We have one party rule in California and it's a disaster. If the Republicans ran the state as thorough it wouldn't be any better. We need the ability to discuss and even argue so we can test our ideas with some pushing back.

 

[John_8581]

Mainly inflation. It seems to be the key. A medium box of cereal in 2019 vs. 2024 ..

My weekly grocery bill was between $34-$40 in 2020. My weekly grocery bill in 2024 is between $75-$85. Pretty much the same things being bought: eggs, bacon, bread, milk, two bags of snacks: corn chips and potato chips; a bag of almonds, a bag of cashews, Chips-Ahoy cookies, Oreos. Cold cuts, a jar of mayonnaise, mustard. Laundry products such as bleach and ammonia., etc., etc.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Many inflation. It seems to be the key. A small box of cereal in 2019 vs. 2024 ..

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My weekly grocery bill was between $34-$40 in 2020. My weekly grocery bill in 2024 is between $75-$85. Pretty much the same things being bought: eggs, bacon, bread, milk, two bags of snacks: corn chips and potato chips; a bag of almonds and cashews, Chips-Ahoy cookies, Oreos. Cold cuts, a jar of mayonnaise, mustard. Laundry products such as bleach and ammonia., etc., etc.

I think people resented their daily costs going up while the networks were throwing a dance party for Cacklepuss trying to gussy her up for the voting livestock. Kamala Harris developed a reputation for being unlikable but she overcompensated too much.

As the kids say this isn't a good look...

 

[John_8581]

I think people resented their daily costs going up while the networks were throwing a dance party for Cacklepuss trying to gussy her up for the voting livestock. Kamala Harris developed a reputation for being unlikable but she overcompensated too much.

As the kids say this isn't a good look...

You people in California are a bit touched, aka crazy.

Picture if you will. Big fat lard ass Trump trying to do calisthenics in a group setting. Falling on his ass. Now that would be hysterical.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

You people in California are crazy!

I call Los Angeles the Caliphate Of The Hobos. It's an outdoor Insane Asylum that makes Gaza Strip look like Dubai. I made Citizen App 2 times in a month recently.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Picture if you will. Big fat lard ass Trump trying to do calisthenics in a group setting. Falling on his ass. Now that would be hysterical.

That was good. Have that and embrace it. I'll happily do the job.

 

[gmase]

Gmase, do you think other Democrats should stop pointing fingers blaming and shaming people based on race and gender for Kamala losing so badly? Seems people were already alienated enough so why put a stick in their eye in addition? What positives can be achieved by dividing your potential voters? We need 2 strong parties. We have one party rule in California and it's a disaster. If the Republicans ran the state as thorough it wouldn't be any better. We need the ability to discuss and even argue so we can test our ideas with some pushing back.

Of course. And both parties need to scale back the violent rhetoric and actions.

Does it remind you - like me - of the antebellum period?

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Of course. And both parties need to scale back the violent rhetoric and actions.

Absolutely.

Does it remind you - like me - of the antebellum period?

Kinda. Looks like enough slaves escaped from the Plantation and were unfortunately allowed to think for themselves.

 

[gmase]

Kinda. Looks like enough slaves escaped from the Plantation and were unfortunately allowed to think for themselves.

I was referring specifically to the political rhetoric and violence.

Let's get back on track ...

Harris lost because she ran a campaign which was long on celebrity endorsements and short on a strong narrative. She had a plan, she discussed her plan, and the message got lost in all of Trump's bullshit.

Biden did some things well (discussed elsewhere), but she did not run away from Biden's faults. When she stated she couldn't think of something she would do differently than Biden - other than having a Republican in her cabinet - she tanked herself with persuadable voters.

One could also argue that she tried too hard to get 'soft Republicans' instead going farther to the left.

One has to wonder why she turned down a Black Caucus outreach program. She raised over $1 billion and didn't want to spend $10 million?
https://www.politico.com/live-updat...p-rejected-black-voter-outreach-plan-00187902

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Let's get back on track ...

Harris lost because she ran a campaign which was long on celebrity endorsements and short on a strong narrative. She had a plan, she discussed her plan, and the message got lost in all of Trump's bullshit.

Biden did some things well (discussed elsewhere), but she did not run away from Biden's faults. When she stated she couldn't think of something she would do differently than Biden - other than having a Republican in her cabinet - she tanked herself with persuadable voters.

One could also argue that she tried too hard to get 'soft Republicans' instead going farther to the left.

One has to wonder why she turned down a Black Caucus outreach program. She raised over $1 billion and didn't want to spend $10 million?
https://www.politico.com/live-updat...p-rejected-black-voter-outreach-plan-00187902

Gmase, that's a lot more moderate and constructive than a lot of the blindsided race-baiting mental patients who have endless wounds to lick that will never heal.

 

[gmase]

Gmase, that's a lot more moderate and constructive ...

I am a moderate afterall.

... than a lot of the blindsided race-baiting mental patients who have endless wounds to lick that will never heal.

Trump seems to have a few of them too. (The figurative ones. I am NOT referring to his ear.)

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Gmase, at a time like this how much fun would it be to have Lux back wheeling in his Amazing Technicolor Memeboat? Whatever city, town, or village he lives in avoid all Walmarts and Grocery Stores like your life depends on it.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Trump seems to have a few of them too. (The figurative ones. I am NOT referring to his ear.)

The blindsiding they got was the landslide victory and I'm sure their path of healing is going very well.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I am a moderate afterall.

You are and are one of the sane ones worth having a discussion with. I like John also. We have had endless disagreements and will have many more but we have always treated each other with respect even with a bit of occasional mild poking fun at each other. We have never once insulted each other nor reduced ourselves to calling each other names. Thank you for all of that. I appreciate John as well. We can ride out anything and I was also prepared if Kamala Harris won too.

 

[gmase]

The blindsiding they got was the landslide victory and I'm sure their path of healing is going very well.

The landslide went the other way in 2020.

Harris lost because we forgot why we kicked Trump out in 2020.