Obama supports building a mosque at ground zero

It's a combat zone.

Actually the answer would be it was unconventional forces you faced in a guerrilla war.

But my point was good and evil people of any type don't usually walk around with marks on their foreheads denoting which ones they are.

Unless you've come up with a fool proof method for determining who all the other good or evil people are in the world other than arabs.:dunno:
 

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So you know better than a vet?

Not that it makes a difference but I'm a vet.:cool:

Yea, he's the guy whose off in the background. . . the guy with the clipboard and L/R field glasses . . . the guy who accounts for every shot fired . . . the subversive - undermining persecutor of our best men!

Careful! You Might end up with a court martial . . . be a good laddy now, don't take any unnecessary shots ! Make sure you give the enemy plenty of time to take your head clean off before you drop the hammer!


Yep! It makes a difference alright!

BTW What unit were you in? What or who were you fighting for exactly?
 
Yea, he's the guy whose off in the background. . . the guy with the clipboard and L/R field glasses . . . the guy who accounts for every shot fired . . . the subversive - undermining persecutor of our best men!

Careful! you might end up with a court martial . . . be a good laddy now, don't take any unnecessary shots ! Make sure you give the enemy plenty of time to take your head clean off before you drop the hammer!


Yep! It makes a difference alright!

BTW What unit were you in? What or who were you fighting for exactly?

Yeah...I was holding a clipboard.:1orglaugh

Know this little man....those who have done the most usually are the ones who don't have much to say about it.

And no I wouldn't be on some internet message board babbling about the ops me or my team undertook.

Suffice it to say it was far from holding some clipboard Face.

Just continued your tour on the sidelines while the real men do the heavy lifting.
 

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Yeah...I was holding a clipboard.:1orglaugh

Know this little man....those who have done the most usually are the ones who don't have much to say about it.

And no I wouldn't be on some internet message board babbling about the ops me or my team undertook.

Suffice it to say it was far from holding some clipboard Face.

Just continued your tour on the sidelines while the real men do the heavy lifting.

I remember that you said that you used to be in law enforcement. I am wondering which agency batf, fbi, us marshals, swat or undercover recon.
I don't get why you are hiding your military/law enforcement past, are you afraid of something ??? You hold views of someone who has never been in law enforcement nor military, this is just my opinion in all honesty.
 
I remember that you said that you used to be in law enforcement. I am wondering which agency batf, fbi, us marshals, swat or undercover recon.
I don't get why you are hiding your military/law enforcement past, are you afraid of something ??? You hold views of someone who has never been in law enforcement nor military, this is just my opinion in all honesty.

I NEVER said I was in law enforcement...EVER. I discussed some techniques military as well as law enforcement uses....from that one person assume I was LE and I corrected him at the time.

From my experience knowing many in the military and in law enforcement..there is no monolith of thought. At least not in the US no matter how some in the media like to portray it.

Obama outraised McCain for example in military campaign donations.

Also the views I hold are that of an American patriot who believes in and has defended the principles (all of them..even the ones I don't like) America stands for.

My input on issues comes from a variety of background and experience...from the military, from "other" government work, from private sector work and from entrepreneurial experience.
 

BBGRob

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It's funny how the right follows the constitution as if it's the Bible yet when they when they find something that they disagree with they are fast to call for changing the constitution.:rolleyes:

:glugglug: Bravo!
 
A very close and long time friend of my family is an Imam so I know a thing or two about Muslims and Islam. Islam is a religion of peace before anything else. A true Muslim has respect for other people even if they belong to a different religion or no religion at all. A true Muslim will never try force his/her beliefs on anyone else because that goes against one of the fundamental rules of Islam, respect for others. A true Muslim also condemns any kind of violence and murder and terrorism of any kind. A true Muslim seeks peace with the people around him/her.

The extremists who say they are fighting in the name of Allah are not, and I repeat not true Muslims because they pervert everything Islam stands for and bring shame to true Muslims. Muslims who say they are willing to fight in the name of Allah or who want to convert the entire world to Islam are not true Muslims.

These are indisputable facts.
 

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...A true Muslim will never try force his/her beliefs on anyone else because that goes against one of the fundamental rules of Islam, respect for others. A true Muslim also condemns any kind of violence and murder and terrorism of any kind. A true Muslim seeks peace with the people around him/her...

These are indisputable facts.

Unless that person happens to be Islamic already, you mean? What about apostasy in Islam?

a·pos·ta·sy   [uh-pos-tuh-see]
–noun, plural -sies.
a total desertion of or departure from one's religion.


In Islamic law (sharia), the consensus view is that a male apostate must be put to death unless he suffers from a mental disorder or converted under duress, for example, due to an imminent danger of being killed. A female apostate must be either executed, according to Shafi'i, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh), or imprisoned until she reverts to Islam as advocated by the Sunni Hanafi school and by Shi'a scholars

Sounds pretty peaceful and non-violent to me (where's the "sarcasm" smiley?). If this is the punishment for Muslims trying to leave the Islamic faith, I really have a hard time buying into the whole "religion of peace," "Muslims seek peace with those around them," bit.
 
A very close and long time friend of my family is an Imam so I know a thing or two about Muslims and Islam. Islam is a religion of peace before anything else. A true Muslim has respect for other people even if they belong to a different religion or no religion at all. A true Muslim will never try force his/her beliefs on anyone else because that goes against one of the fundamental rules of Islam, respect for others. A true Muslim also condemns any kind of violence and murder and terrorism of any kind. A true Muslim seeks peace with the people around him/her.

The extremists who say they are fighting in the name of Allah are not, and I repeat not true Muslims because they pervert everything Islam stands for and bring shame to true Muslims. Muslims who say they are willing to fight in the name of Allah or who want to convert the entire world to Islam are not true Muslims.

These are indisputable facts.

Those are not facts, and most of it is blatantly and demonstrably untrue to anyone who has laid eyes on the Koran or the other holy books of Islam, or a history book for that matter. Sorry.

Your friend is probably practicing what some call "Islam Lite" or he does not take the Koran as the word of God, because if you do believe the Koran is the word of God and must be followed, then tolerance of unbelievers is not tolerated unless they submit and become a second class citizen under the rule of a Muslim government and society.

And furthermore, most people fail to understand that Islam was not meant to be a "personal religion" first, it was a governmental/societal/philosophical system first, and the personal religious/morality side second, but it's all inter-twined.
 
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