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Summer Olympics 2008

Yeah they're on tonight. They have the events finals. Shawn's best event is the floor excercise and Nastia's best is the balance beam.

Is it just them two, or is my girl Alicia Sucksmefunny gonna be on too? :D
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
You guys are lucky, its on at 3am her, whats that on your time 7pm :dunno: its an effort just to watch this shit.

Record is Blue. Record and watch it later


Is it just them two, or is my girl Alicia Sucksmefunny gonna be on too? :D

Your girl Alicia Fingersherhoney is going to be on. Only thing I saw so far for her is the vault, but that's just after 1 day of qual, so there's still more events to come.
 
You guys are lucky, its on at 3am her, whats that on your time 7pm :dunno: its an effort just to watch this shit.

Technically, according to what Violator's been rubbing in my face all week, it starts at 6 pm California time, but those douche bags at NBC don't start broadcasting anything until 8 pm (and the little "LIVE" icon is still on the screen at that time :rolleyes:). Even then, they usually show about an hour and a half of shit that happened the day before. I'm not talking about recaps, they actually show entire events as if they were happening at the moment. And, yes, they still show the event that they had broadcast the night before as being "LIVE". :rolleyes:
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
Technically, according to what Violator's been rubbing in my face all week, it starts at 6 pm California time :rolleyes:

LOL it starts at 8pm EST here and there's a 3 hour time difference from East to West, so we get the events live as they happen, with some pre-taped events from the previous night.
 
Your girl Alicia Fingersherhoney is going to be on. Only thing I saw so far for her is the vault, but that's just after 1 day of qual, so there's still more events to come.

I really hope she gets a chance to redeem herself on the balance beam and the floor. Wouldn't it be ironic if she won gold in the events that she faltered in during the team competition? :thumbsup:
 

member979979

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Just want to vent for a minute:

- Why did they end the live coverage so early last night?

- Can somebody please shoot Bob Costas.

- And please stop with this gay comparison between Michael Phelps and Mark Spitz.
 
- And please stop with this gay comparison between Michael Phelps and Mark Spitz.

I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon. I mean, the accomplishment that Phelps achieved by winning his 7th gold was Spitz's claim to fame. It's just as with any record that's matched or surpassed in any other sport. The newcomer is always compared to the record-setter ad nauseam.
 
- And please stop with this gay comparison between Michael Phelps and Mark Spitz.

The one thing im not sure about is this term "greatest olympian ever", I know he has won the most medal, but surly there are for more important athletes who deserve that title more than he does. Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens are just a few who I think deserve that term more.


If the greatest olympian ever is just reserved for medals than of course he is the greatest but if the term has more meaning than just medals, like the history and the legacy left by that athlete at that time then it has to go to someone else. Those are just my thoughts :hatsoff:
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
The one thing im not sure about is this term "greatest olympian ever", I know he has won the most medal, but surly there are for more important athletes who deserve that title more than he does. Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens are just a few who I think deserve that term more.

Don't forget Nadia Comaneci. :thumbsup:

Speaking of Jesse Owens, the story about how Hitler snubbed him isn't true. I read Jesse's own words and he said "When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man of the hour in Germany."

Amazingly, Owens also said "Hitler didn't snub me—it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram."
 
The one thing im not sure about is this term "greatest olympian ever", I know he has won the most medal, but surly there are for more important athletes who deserve that title more than he does. Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens are just a few who I think deserve that term more.
I don't think that you can accurately say that there is one single 'greatest Olympian ever' because every sport is vastly different from all the others. I mean, comparing archery to soccer is like comparing apples and chickens. Some sports, namely individual competitions, are more likely to be dominated by one person than others. Some sports, such as is the case with Phelps, allow for one person to win multiple medals in the same Olympiad, while others, such as basketball, only have one gold, silver, and bronze medal for the entire event. I don't think that Carl Lewis and Jesse Owens are any more deserving of the title than Phelps is, nor do I think they are any less deserving of it, but the truth is that they really can't be compared because their individual competitions are very different. I'm sure Phelps couldn't run the 100 meters in 10 seconds to save his life, and I doubt if Lewis or Owens would've been any more competitive underwater if they swam the 100 meter butterfly than the 100 meter doggy paddle. To be able to accurately compare 2 athletes they should compete in the same sport, such as is the case with Phelps and Spitz.

If the greatest olympian ever is just reserved for medals than of course he is the greatest but if the term has more meaning than just medals, like the history and the legacy left by that athlete at that time then it has to go to someone else. Those are just my thoughts :hatsoff:

Give it time. The influence and legacy that Phelps leaves in swimming can't be measured the day after he wins his, what's he up to now? 12th? gold. It will take years to see if what he's done has influenced the technique used, and the overall popularity of the sport.
 
I don't think that you can accurately say that there is one single 'greatest Olympian ever' because every sport is vastly different from all the others. I mean, comparing archery to soccer is like comparing apples and chickens. Some sports, namely individual competitions, are more likely to be dominated by one person than others. Some sports, such as is the case with Phelps, allow for one person to win multiple medals in the same Olympiad, while others, such as basketball, only have one gold, silver, and bronze medal for the entire event. I don't think that Carl Lewis and Jesse Owens are any more deserving of the title than Phelps is, nor do I think they are any less deserving of it, but the truth is that they really can't be compared because their individual competitions are very different. I'm sure Phelps couldn't run the 100 meters in 10 seconds to save his life, and I doubt if Lewis or Owens would've been any more competitive underwater if they swam the 100 meter butterfly than the 100 meter doggy paddle. To be able to accurately compare 2 athletes they should compete in the same sport, such as is the case with Phelps and Spitz.


That is exactly what I was thinking no one person can be the greatest ever, but you should hear the BBC go on and on about how he is the greatest ever, and like you I thought to myself how can you compare him to any other olympic competator because of the wide range of events that go on, because some guy could have won the 30k speed walk 7 times in a row over 28 years and he would have to be compared to Phelps in some way, how would you do that? I dont know.

The only person he can be compared with is another swimmer, Mark Spitz and now he can be called the greatest olympic swimmer ever becaue he has surpassed Spitz record, but all round you cant make that argument, you can say he's won the most medals, but was he greater than every other sportsman who ever competed in the olympics, you cant. How would Phelps do in the long jump, how would Lewis do in the 200m butterfly, bad mostlikly. No one should be the greatest olympian ever, they can be called the most decorated olympian ever, but not the greatest.

The BBC should shut the fuck up!
 
The only person he can be compared with is another swimmer, Mark Spitz
Even then, the comparison would be unaccurate because of the differences in the sport itself between 1972 and 2008. For one, Spitz swam in a banana hammock :)eek:), with shaggy hair and a moustache, all of which would be considered cardinal sins in today's swimming competitions.
No one should be the greatest olympian ever, they can be called the most decorated olympian ever, but not the greatest.
Agreed!
The BBC should shut the fuck up!

I'll take your word for it, I don't have to deal with the BBC. On the other hand, I do have to listen to NBC's loud-mouthed commentators... :crash:
 
The one thing im not sure about is this term "greatest olympian ever", I know he has won the most medal, but surly there are for more important athletes who deserve that title more than he does. Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens are just a few who I think deserve that term more.:

He's the most dominant ever. His winning percentage must be something like 95%+. Even when he doesn't get Gold, he medals.
 
Even then, the comparison would be unaccurate because of the differences in the sport itself between 1972 and 2008. For one, Spitz swam in a banana hammock :)eek:), with shaggy hair and a moustache, all of which would be considered cardinal sins in today's swimming competitions.

Your definitely right about that, those little details I forgot about, the technology now compared to the 70s is unbileivable, swimming caps and special suits that allow the swimmer to go faster in the water make a huge difference. So I suppose he cant be compared to anyone. I suppose if they had a time machine and took him back or brought Spitz forward it still wouldnt count because peoples physiology are different today aswell.
 
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