One Porn Star's Political Opinions...

[Philbert]

Mariah, you're acting just like the English tourist in manila who keeps yelling louder and louder at the Tagalog-speaking country boy, assuming that that is what will get his English language meaning across...more volume. NOT!

Quit Shouting!pleez

Book learning doesn't make you smart, it tends to confuse the average student into thinking knowledge equals intelligence. Nope, Eric is not gonna get how not smart he is, 'cause he thinks all his schooling gave him wisdom.
How many here have watched "JAYWALKING" on the Tonight Show...I always cringe when the stupidest people giving the dumbest answers turn out to be working teachers, University students , grad students, etc.

Like Eric...

 

[eric2136]

And yet even again, in terms of the two proofs I provided: 1) the orgins of matter, and 2) the origins of Dogon astronomical wisdom, how is you saying that you don't know the answer, any more credible than me attributing an explanation to supernatural forces that you don't understand ?

You should simply just accept defeat graciously instead of loosing your composure and acting in bad character. You haven't provided any evidence proving that God doesn't exist, and you can't refute the evidence which I provided that God does exist, other than to say "I don't know yet", as if that cop out actually means something...If you go into a test with a proffesor and write "I don't know yet" as an anwer to all the questions, then you would get a big fat "F"...which is exactly the grade I'm giving you for your responses to my last post...PATHETIC LOL

AGAIN CITING THINGS THAT ARE NOT YET EXPLAINED DOES NOT PROVE THAT THERE IS A GOD. IT ONLY PROVES THAT WE HAVENT FIGURED IT OUT.......YET. THATS WHY YOU RELIGIOUS LOONYS KEEP FIGHTING SCENTIFIC ADVANCEMENTS.

FACT!

 

[Mariahxxx]

I asked for proof that GOD created it. you just assume he did because there is not yet another answer discovered. so because there's no answer found as of today, that means it must be a supernatural creator who did it all?

your argument proves my theory. you say you provided evidence of God's existence? where? what evidence? was he sighted? video taped? was there another scroll faxed down from heaven I don't know about?

and if you told the professor that you didn't have the answer so it must be gods doing he would fail you AND laugh at you.

your argument is fucking dumb and boring. I have better shit to do and more articulate people I can debate with. have a good weekend

 

[eric2136]

your argument proves my theory

LOL WHAT theory, you never formulated one ! You provided NO evidence whatsoever that God doesn't exist other than your personal bias. You clealy have no explanation for the proofs I provided in the contrary, so yeah you are out of ammo...fo sho' LOL. But you didn't have to be such a sore loser about it...I bet you flip the board over when you lose to your son in checkers LOL !

You have a good weekend also, I enjoyed the discussion...for the most part.

 

[Rattrap]

And yet even again, in terms of the two proofs I provided: 1) the orgins of matter, and 2) the origins of Dogon astronomical wisdom, how is you saying that you don't know the answer, any more credible than me attributing an explanation to supernatural forces that you don't understand ?

This right here shows us you're actually pretty dense. How is saying we don't know more credible than attributing some incredibly far-fetched and unsupported conclusion instead? Really? You're asking that?

Here's the thing...I'm quite happy to have these sorts of debates, and in the end, I don't need you to believe that you're wrong and that your positions have been dismantled. But they have. Others can see it, and that's enough for me. You will carry on being the blind believer who starts from the supposition that he is correct, and therefore seeks anything and everything to support that supposition. You find facts to fit your assumptions, instead of basing your assumptions on the facts. This annoys me, but considering most of the people on the planet do it, I've long since learned to live with it.

It's you being wholly wrong and being an asshole about it I cannot abide. So let me break down this debate with you in a nice neat summary:

• The cosmological argument for the existence of God is a contradiction of its own logic. It's shit, in other words.
• Occam's razor as you yourself seem to know yet not understand, says that the simplest answer is most likely the correct one. God, being an infinitely complex and unlikely entity, is never the simplest answer. Literally, extraterrestrials are a simpler explanation. But there are, of course, simpler explanations still.
• Similarly, assigning an explanation that has absolutely zero evidence to support it is erroneous at best, fucking stupid at worst.
• Your whole shtick about the Dogon is completely irrelevant. I mean that. You've been jumping up and down about it, but it doesn't prove anything about God. It really, really doesn't.
• This:
  

  LOL WHAT theory, you never formulated one ! You provided NO evidence whatsoever that God doesn't exist other than your personal bias. You clealy have no explanation for the proofs I provided in the contrary, so yeah you are out of ammo...

  The burden of proof is on you. If you can't prove what you say, what you say is shit. In the meantime, there's a flying teapot orbiting the planet. Did you know that? Yeah, it's too small to be seen, though. Oh, and it can't be detected by our satellites. Doesn't reflect light or heat...yeah, but it's there! Honest! Prove me wrong. Do it, I dare you.
• You're a dick.

I think that about wraps it up. Call me if anything new gets injected into this particular debate.

 

[Mariahxxx]

my theory Eric is that believing in an invisible all powering man is for weak-minded people. like you.

 

[Jack Davenport]

you show me ONE proof that there is a God and I'll admit defeat. ONE. just 1

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[Jack Davenport]

You guys have been busy as little beavers while I was away. From lawyer bashing to the existence of God. lol

 

[eric2136]

my theory Eric is that believing in an invisible all powering man is for weak-minded people. like you.

That's not a theory, that's just your lazy completely unsubstantiated, or supported by evidence, irrational personal bias based on nothing. Do you even know what a real theory is ? Maybe you should look it up. LOL

 

[Mariahxxx]

again, waiting for your PROOF of God. you haven't even come close. theory is one thing, proof is entirely something else.

and your correct, my opnion is based on nothing nothing to prove that there is a supernatural being who watches over us all, even while we die horrible tragic painful torturous deaths. or watch our children die or get sick and struggle through life with birth deffects that the so called christians refuse to help pay for so they can buy planes and have 12 houses.

you show me PROOF and Ill admit defeat. your bullshit about some tribe means squat

 

[Chopper3000]

God is Sir Alex Ferguson, who has in fact just retired. I thought everyone knew that. Some people need to open their eyes and smell the magic. God is too busy picking up his pension.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I always find it humorous that those who doubt the existence of God can't fathom that any supreme being capable of creating human beings, planets, stars. matter and so on would put limitations on the knowledge of those that he created. I know I would. I don't trust you fuckers.

 

[Chopper3000]

I always find it humorous that those who doubt the existence of God can't fathom that any supreme being capable of creating human beings, planets, stars. matter and so on would put limitations on the knowledge of those that he created. I know I would. I don't trust you fuckers.

God tranformed a football team in 1986 to become champions. Everything else in the universe is essentially science taking care of itself.

 

[xfire]

The God concept is a classic example of circular logic. "All things that can't be explained must be the work of a Supreme Being, thus proving the existence of a Supreme Being", really, how? Did the Supreme Being create itself? How did that work? Is the Supreme Being the Prime Mover? Where did it come from? This line of thinking is rife with holes that can only be filled with ad hoc hypothesis, and if you've got to make it up as you go along and adding qualifiers and caveats all along the way, how much faith does it really deserve?

 

[Jack Davenport]

Believe if you want, don't believe if you want. I believe in God. if it turns out my faith was in some fairy tale then when I die I lose consciousness and I cease to exist in some dark void of nothingness. If I am right I go to Heaven where none of you non believers will be anyway. Win/Win

 

[Jack Davenport]

people encouraged their kids to become lawyers because it's a profession that earns good money. you cannot believe that those scumbags who represent rapists and child molestors for a living or chase ambulances are respected people????

To be ashamed one must have dignity and or self respect. I find it hard that those types of attorney's have an ounce of either.

I have many friends who are attorney's and I have attorney's who work for me, so you are very wrong. I just get sick of people trained in law zig zagging around topics and answers.

And please, what point of discussion have I avoided???

So the lawyers are a loved group of individuals? I hardly think so. They are a necessary evil in many instances. Some do very noble work and are solid people, without question. But there are many who suck as human beings and would sell their grandma.

You take a shot at me for my FORMER profession like you think I would disagree with you.

A drunk at the bar who just got fucked over at his divorce slammed his shot glass down and screamed "All lawyers are assholes!" a guy at the end of the bar said "Hey, I take offense to that!" and the drunk says, "oh sorry. I didn't know you were a lawyer" and the other guy says, "I'm not, I'm an asshole"

So let's get this straight. A few posters have made comments to you on this thread about your former career and you have lambasted them and call them all kinds of names. Yet you find my career something that is fair game lol

It is clear to all of us now that have participated in this thread that you are extremely well connected , know a ton of celebrities or rub elbows with them and know some of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the country.

If I have gained any insight into your psyche it is because you admitted to only having an 8th grade education and you feel that you must align yourself with the powerful and intelligentsia and the most popular of secular beliefs to validate yourself for missing out on the higher education that you regret not pursuing.

Overcompensate much?

We got it.

 

[xfire]

Believe if you want, don't believe if you want. I believe in God. if it turns out my faith was in some fairy tale then when I die I lose consciousness and I cease to exist in some dark void of nothingness. If I am right I go to Heaven where none of you non believers will be anyway. Win/Win

That's assuming that your God concept is the right one. What if the Jews are right, or the Muslims? Or the Satanists? I don't discount the idea of a Supreme Being, but I do reject the notion that the Bible is the Holy word of God. If a supreme being exists, I find it extremely unlikely that it would be concerned with what us lowly humans were doing, about as much as you give a shit what the ants in the mound on the left corner of your property are currently engaged in.

 

[Jack Davenport]

That's assuming that your God concept is the right one. What if the Jews are right, or the Muslims? Or the Satanists? I don't discount the idea of a Supreme Being, but I do reject the notion that the Bible is the Holy word of God. If a supreme being exists, I find it extremely unlikely that it would be concerned with what us lowly humans were doing, about as much as you give a shit what the ants in the mound on the left corner of your property are currently engaged in.

Have you read the Qu'ran or even the writings of Anton LaVey? lol

 

[Rattrap]

The God concept is a classic example of circular logic. "All things that can't be explained must be the work of a Supreme Being, thus proving the existence of a Supreme Being", really, how? Did the Supreme Being create itself? How did that work? Is the Supreme Being the Prime Mover? Where did it come from? This line of thinking is rife with holes that can only be filled with ad hoc hypothesis, and if you've got to make it up as you go along and adding qualifiers and caveats all along the way, how much faith does it really deserve?

Hence, the cosmological argument is a contradiction unto itself. "Everything has to have a cause...except that thing." An infinitely complex thing, no less, which flies in the face of everything we know about the universe (that is, that things grow from simple to complex, not the other way around; see: evolution, formation of molecules, planets, hell, the way human beings build things, etc., etc). Ah, but we're in agreement anyway, so I don't need to overkill this horse...

Believe if you want, don't believe if you want. I believe in God. if it turns out my faith was in some fairy tale then when I die I lose consciousness and I cease to exist in some dark void of nothingness. If I am right I go to Heaven where none of you non believers will be anyway. Win/Win

Classic Pascal's Wager. And I don't fault you any for it, either, so long as it isn't wrapped up in religious dogma. While I think that at worst, such belief usurps one's critical thought, it doesn't harm anyone any and I really have no issue with it, my arguments aside. Religion, on the other hand, inevitably leads to hell on earth for many people.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Hence, the cosmological argument is a contradiction unto itself. "Everything has to have a cause...except that thing." An infinitely complex thing, no less, which flies in the face of everything we know about the universe (that is, that things grow from simple to complex, not the other way around; see: evolution, formation of molecules, planets, hell, the way human beings build things, etc., etc). Ah, but we're in agreement anyway, so I don't need to overkill this horse...


Classic Pascal's Wager. And I don't fault you any for it, either, so long as it isn't wrapped up in religious dogma. While I think that at worst, such belief usurps one's critical thought, it doesn't harm anyone any and I really have no issue with it, my arguments aside. Religion, on the other hand, inevitably leads to hell on earth for many people.

No, I don't preach here, I only preach to state troopers.