Erica Campbell quits

I am very happy for Erica.From Her message on the website,it seems She has really made the right decision for Herself.She seems to have found some peace and contentment in what She described as a very unhappy way of life.I wish the very best for Her.Although a very few people have made fun or joked about it,I thought Her message was quite sincere,powerful,and touching.--May God bless Her.---Sam
 

xxaru

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I wasn't suggesting that you stop posting in this thread, not at all. I simply felt that our discussion was beginning to dominate it, that's all. That's why I mentioned pm's.


BTW, I think you and I are taking different things from her letter. I really don't care whether she is blaming anyone or not. I just am pleased to read such a popular model tell it like it is. Because almost no model/performer does when they are in 'it'.
And maybe her words will help people (men and women) realize just what a horrible and dehumanizing industry it can be.
My thing is… why can’t we just say that this industry is not for everyone; some people just aren’t cut out for it and simply cannot deal with it??? Why does it have to be an attack saying the entire industry is “bad, horrible, and dehumanizing”?

If Erica Campbell came out and said, “you know what… I thought this industry was for me, but I’ve come to find out that it’s not. I found that I’m just not cut out for this and that it’s best for me to leave. I’m not trying to throw blame on anyone. I have to take up for my own decisions (be they good or bad), and I’m gonna do what I feel is right and best for me now….” If she said that, I would have the utmost respect for her. That’s someone who has class, and is man or woman enough to stand up and face their own past mistakes in life.

Instead, we see another girl who is whining about how she was used and taken advantage of by the horrible daemons of the adult industry (that SHE chose to be in).

And everyone is to blame. The consumers (like me), the producers and, of course, the performers. But those that profit from it and yet know full well how horrible it can be are the ones that truly disgust me. They profit from the unhappiness of others. Others like, apparently, Erica Campbell.
For every “unhappy” Erica Campbell, there are 2 other Erica Campbell’s that are perfectly content in their adult work. And I never saw EC mention anything about having a problem about the pornography work itself. She just seemed to have mental issues about her own personal life (or lack there of) that she tried to tie into as a side effect of her porn persona. She could’ve worked any job in the world and still had personal life issues (tons of people do).

But those that profit from it and yet know full well how horrible it can be are the ones that truly disgust me. They profit from the unhappiness of others.
See, I don’t feel the industry is as “wrong” and “harmful” as you make it out to be. You and I see things from a different moral viewpoint, and that’s Ok. We’re all entitled to our own opinion.
 
For every “unhappy” Erica Campbell, there are 2 other Erica Campbell’s that are perfectly content in their adult work.
Ask them when they have been out of 'it' for a while. But when they are in it? Of course they say how great it is. They have to. They are actors. All actors (porn or otherwise) have to kiss the ass of the producers or they fear they may never work again. Never believe as fact anything positive any actor says about anything they do or did until they have zero personal and/or financial interest in it anymore. Only then can you be remotely sure of the truth.

See, I don’t feel the industry is as “wrong” and “harmful” as you make it out to be. You and I see things from a different moral viewpoint, and that’s Ok. We’re all entitled to our own opinion.
Agreed. And I think you made your points pretty well.

I will now stop hogging this thread with my opinions.
 

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Ask them when they have been out of 'it' for a while. But when they are in it? Of course they say how great it is. They have to. They are actors. All actors (porn or otherwise) have to kiss the ass of the producers or they fear they may never work again. Never believe as fact anything positive any actor says about anything they do or did until they have zero personal and/or financial interest in it anymore. Only then can you be remotely sure of the truth.
Points taken... but what about all the girls who pose for magazines like Playboy? Where are all the haters that did tons of photos for those guys and have their own websites that they profit off of (just like EC's site)? Erica Campbell's style is pretty much right in line with Penthouse and Playboy work. You never hear about girls bashing the elite guys though... yet they are doing the same kind of photos. That right there speaks volumes.
 
Points taken... but what about all the girls who pose for magazines like Playboy? Where are all the haters that did tons of photos for those guys and have their own websites that they profit off of (just like EC's site)? Erica Campbell's style is pretty much right in line with Penthouse and Playboy work. You never hear about girls bashing the elite guys though... yet they are doing the same kind of photos. That right there speaks volumes.

To me, Playboy is pretty tame stuff. Most playmates do a layout and you never here from them again. And very few of them ever do porn.
I got the impression that Miss Campbell was referring to the harder sides of the industry.
I was not a huge fan of hers. But from what I recall seeing she was more of a Danni's Hard Drive kind of performer/model (the old, slightly tamer Danni's, before Penthouse bought it); sort of a model that walked the line between model and pornstar but never crossed it (that I know of).

I think that the industry as a whole is dehumanizing and objectifying to women. Even Playboy, to a point. Though Playboy is nothing compared to most porn, as I am sure you know.
 

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Playboy is tamer than most stuff... but it's still adult oriented/erotic/porn. It's photos with the intent of arousal. True, a lot of playmates don't do a lot of work, but some of them do, and appear numerous times in the magazine, as well as make a pretty good living off their websites where they do the same type of Playboy and Erica Campbell type photos. Yet we don't hear about the former playmates complaining about how bad the industry was to them.

This possibly tells me that either

A: the Erica Campbell's of the world are a small anomaly.

or

B: Playboy is worse than any other company in the adult industry because they actively try to hide and conceal the truth of the torment their girls go through being in the industry.
 
Playboy is tamer than most stuff... but it's still adult oriented/erotic/porn. It's photos with the intent of arousal. True, a lot of playmates don't do a lot of work, but some of them do, and appear numerous times in the magazine, as well as make a pretty good living off their websites where they do the same type of Playboy and Erica Campbell type photos. Yet we don't here about the former playmates complaining about how bad the industry was to them.

This tells me that either

A: the Erica Campbell's of the world are a small anomaly.

or

B: Playboy is worse than any other company in the adult industry because they actively try to hide and conceal the truth of the torment their girls go through being in the industry.

Well, I think if all you do is pose for Playboy and run your own site; then I would think there would be not a ton to complain about since you are your own producer. You take the shots and you make any films you make.
Of course, then there is the whole nasty subject of pimp boyfriends/husbands. And almost NO women that has one realizes it while they are with them.

The world will be far better off when animation gets good enough that one can't tell the difference between real and animated. Then most porn will be animated. Though this could take decades; regrettably.
 

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Well, I think if all you do is pose for Playboy and run your own site; then I would think there would be not a ton to complain about since you are your own producer. You take the shots and you make any films you make.
Of course, then there is the whole nasty subject of pimp boyfriends/husbands. And almost NO women that has one realizes it while they are with them.
Didn't EC run her own site? I know she didn't do anything that I would consider "hardcore porn". The hardest I've seen from her is her showing her clit and pussy. I would say her work is between Playboy and Penthouse level. Now she may have had a producer running the site for her, but I still don't see how that would put her in a different situation, unless the producer was her boyfriend and/or she got tricked into signing a bad contract deal where she had no way out.
 
Didn't EC run her own site? I know she didn't do anything that I would consider "hardcore porn". The hardest I've seen from her is her showing her clit and pussy. I would say her work is between Playboy and Penthouse level. Now she may have had a producer running the site for her, but I still don't see how that would put her in a different situation, unless the producer was her boyfriend and/or she got tricked into signing a bad contract deal where she had no way out.

I don't know enough about her career to comment.
 
I've read her announcement a few times over, and I'm not seeing her say anywhere in it that she was "abused" by any person or people in the industry personally. Overall, it sounds like her experience was rather tame compared to what many other girls go through. But she does indicate she's seen that side of it, and feels some amount of empathy for them. All I get from it is that she felt unfulfilled by it all, and would like to extend help to the women who really have had a much rougher time than she did.
So good for Erica for making it out of it all intact, and if she's out to help others, I've got no problem with that.
 
Goes to show pornstars are mentally unstable!!

Do you mean Erica herself? How is she mentally unstable? That's being a bit rough, isn't it? OK, so she did seem to make a sudden change to her life, but really, she hasn't held up a bank, or become an axe murderer. Let's get some perspective here.
Give Erica some credit-- so far as we know, she never turned into a drug junkie, and pimped herself out. That makes her a hell of a lot more stable than a lot of the other women in the business!
 
Sex is a very disturbing thing for most people...especiallty women. With women, they get attached, so if it is becoming a job to screw 3-4 different guys a week, eventually at some point, they get all confused and what they may have liked at first, alot of them begin to hate it. But in fact, they still like the aspect of it, and after doing it so many times, it's all they know.

It's really obvious to see alot of times in their faces during scenes, and at the end of scenes that they don't "enjoy" it, and even some of the ones that appear to be, if you really look in their eyes, they don't. This is where drugs come into play to sort of mask that pain and hate they have for what they are doing, however in many cases, they have no education beyond high school and can't make anymore money that they do in porn.

I don't know why some of you guys get so upset at these girls for trying to turn their lives around. That's very selfish to wish that someone continue to behave in a manner that is self-destructing to them, only so you can enjoy it. And obviously, she knows more about the business being on the other side of the camera, than what we see after all the makeup, editing, acting.

Like many on here, I watch porn, however it is not something I am proud of, and if I could go back and delete that first day as a kid when I stumbled upon that VHS of Debbie Does Dallas in my house, I certainly would.
 

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her opinions about the porn industry may or may not be influenced by the fact that she has found Jesus.
But its a strong possibilty that there are.
 
her opinions about the porn industry may or may not be influenced by the fact that she has found Jesus.
But its a strong possibilty that there are.

I would tend to think she had to recognize the ills first, before she made that choice. Otherwise, she would've just continued. Furthermore, I think many of these girls are nice, but certainly misguided and jaded by money and promises of fame. If it was so great, many of them wouldnt get out within a a few years of being in.
 
Great 2 above posts jackblack81. I agree with your points 100%; except that sex is disturbing. I think it can be to some people. I don't think it is by definition. But everything else I am right there with you on.

Welcome to the board.
 
If only one thing is for certain ...

If only one thing is for certain ...

She may have debated the decision before she made it.
But some of these answers surely re-emphasize why someone would.

Sigh. Mental illness? Com'mon!
 
I personally think it's the drugs that do this to people and they blame the porn insdutry for their mistakes since drugs do a shit load of damage to the brain and if you turn religious you will obviously blame one of the things that religions are against. Not all porn stars that leave the industry become born again christians or born again what ever religion they may or may not choose and not all pornstars use drugs. I suppose it varies by country, I mean here in the UK when pornstars leave the industry they don’t become born again christians cause religions don’t have a stronghold here anymore unlike the US where religion is still widespread (I am not bad mouthing religion by the way, I’m just saying that religion does have an influence in what ever country that a large percentage of the population is religious).

I think sex is only disturbing to many people because it's religions that make them sound disturbing. Millions of people (both men and women) around the world have casual sex with multiple partners a week in some places before they settle down and they don't become religious and think what they have done is wrong in terms of religious beliefs. How do you know that all women who enter the porn industry are desperate for money? or don't have much education after they leave schools? or are on drugs? I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of women (and men as well) join the industry simply because they love sex so much so they figured out they might as well get paid for it.

Unless we can develop mind reading technology and read every pornstars minds to know if they are disgusted on what they do then this is still open to debate until the truth comes out. I think that drugs are an issue in the industry and in other industries too. Maybe there should be a porn watchdog group or organisation that inspects every porn company whether they are internet companies, DVD companies and the major companies to do random drug tests on everyone that works in the industry, investigate whether or not women (and men for that matter) are treated fairly, if a pornstar wants to seek help then arrange for them to either go into rehab or a shrink and other things. If that happens I wonder if how many pornstars that leave the industry become born again christians. I mean how many pornstars leave the industry a year? Many of them do although most are only minor stars. How many become born again christians? only a few.
 
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