Does it bother you that some porn stars REFUSE to work with black guys?

[drew84]

I think only a minority of it is racist, a majority of it is personal preference while some of it could be caution about how the pornstars will be portrayed. I mean look at the way that white porn actresses are portrayed on interracial websites, they are portrayed as sluts, whores, only fucks black guys and badmouth men of other races and even their own race which is not only being racist to other races but racist to their own race. Those things are just sad, in many ways wrong and it gives the wrong impression about the performers both male and female.
I love all kinds of interracial porn, however it seems to me and other people I know including a few of my friends who are black is that the 'black men fucking white women' type of interracial porn has hijacked the entire porn genre just like how for example religion have hijacked morality.
Anyway you exactly force a pornstar to work with someone if they are not comfortable with them.

 

[Dean Wormer]

No it doesn't and I suggest to anyone that it does bother to just watch the white girls that do interracial instead of whining about the ones that don't.

 

[titsrock]

Would it bother you if a black girl refused to work with a white guy?

:thefingerOnly if she was SMOKING HOT:lovecoupl:thefinger

 

[calpoon]

Yes it bothers me and I do think it's racist.

In this example let's say you are a heterosexual white woman. To say that you are not attracted to black men is not to judge an individual person on their attractiveness, but to make a blanket statement about an entire group of people that you've never met.

So once again you are saying it's not this person that I am not attracted to, but it's the idea of a black person that you find something unappealing about in that you consider all black men to be the same level of attractiveness, despite the fact that they do not all look identical and there is no common trait amongst them except for dark skin... but there are Caucasian and Hispanic, Indian and Arabic people that have darker skin than some people of African descent so unless you also find them equally (un)attractive that aesthetic argument doesn't hold up.

To say "I'm not gay, so does that mean I am sexist if I don't have sex with guys, etc.?" Is not the same thing.That's comparing apples to oranges. All heterosexual men are attracted to women, and vice versa. That's a matter of sexual function not aesthetic. When it comes to sexual organs all women (and men) are the same, at least as far as racial factor is concerned. To say that having sex with a woman is the same as having sex with a man is like saying that it's the same thing as having sex with a goat.

Same with any other criteria based on radical physical differences. Bone structure and skin pigment vary less by race than they vary amongst any two individuals- I mean really. think about it. There's like a half dozen different racial distinctions, but there's 6 billion different people that don 't look the same. There is no logic to making such a generalized racial statement unless your aversion is based on psychology and not on aesthetics.

 

[laxe]

^^^Agreed.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

No it doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Gordar]

Yes it bothers me and I do think it's racist.

In this example let's say you are a heterosexual white woman. To say that you are not attracted to black men is not to judge an individual person on their attractiveness, but to make a blanket statement about an entire group of people that you've never met.

So once again you are saying it's not this person that I am not attracted to, but it's the idea of a black person that you find something unappealing about in that you consider all black men to be the same level of attractiveness, despite the fact that they do not all look identical and there is no common trait amongst them except for dark skin... but there are Caucasian and Hispanic, Indian and Arabic people that have darker skin than some people of African descent so unless you also find them equally (un)attractive that aesthetic argument doesn't hold up.

To say "I'm not gay, so does that mean I am sexist if I don't have sex with guys, etc.?" Is not the same thing.That's comparing apples to oranges. All heterosexual men are attracted to women, and vice versa. That's a matter of sexual function not aesthetic. When it comes to sexual organs all women (and men) are the same, at least as far as racial factor is concerned. To say that having sex with a woman is the same as having sex with a man is like saying that it's the same thing as having sex with a goat.

Same with any other criteria based on radical physical differences. Bone structure and skin pigment vary less by race than they vary amongst any two individuals- I mean really. think about it. There's like a half dozen different racial distinctions, but there's 6 billion different people that don 't look the same. There is no logic to making such a generalized racial statement unless your aversion is based on psychology and not on aesthetics.

If it were true that some girls aren't attracted to black men at all, You Might be right, but I do believe that's often just an excuse given so that the girls won't look like (& I hate to use this word, but I've got a splitting headache right now & I can hardly think, so I can't come up with a better word/description) sluts.

Like I've already said, what if interracial pays less or like someone else already said, in interracial porn the girls are often treated like white trash, what if they don't like that?

Besides, I can imagine people saying they do not like people with certain physical characteristics. As You Might know, I'm not interested in girls with fake boobs and they generally turn me off. There are only a few exceptions to that rule (2 or 3 out of 100), so even though not being attracted to black men isn't entirely true, it might apply in most cases & if you have to put something in your curriculum vitae & out of every 100 black men you only like 2 or 3, it'd be smarter to say you simply won't do them, as the chances you'll get to fuck those 2 or 3 black men you do like are very small...

 

[Afficial_Nastee]

Not that long ago I used to be upset with some white girls who refused to do IR, but now I'm like fuck it, it's HER decision and let us respect that decision, it may be her decision and opinion on professional point but it might be different in her personal life. So I don't really care bout this subject anymore....

 

[PamCarmen69]

Talent should always be able to dictate what they're willing to do without even giving a reason. "No" is all that is necessary.

Here is an example of why you can't always think you know what is going in peoples minds.

I've read/heard numerous porn stars say they would do IR and have no problem with it personally. However, they have family/friends/significant others that know they do porn and that would just be too much for them. They're giving a shit about their loved ones.

 

[J. Friday]

Like I've already said, what if interracial pays less or like someone else already said, in interracial porn the girls are often treated like white trash, what if they don't like that?

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But interracial does actually pay more. The main reason why these women are in porn is because of the money. So what reason other than a racial reason would a pornstar turn down receiving more money for doing interracial.

Also, there is a lot of non-IR porn where women get treated like white trash all the time. I just watched Rocco Siffredi treating Jewel De'Nyle like absolute garbage in Animal Trainer 15. That's just one of the thousands of porno flicks where a white woman is degraded by a white man for the purposes of my twisted sexual gratification.:o

These chicks fuck guys that in some cases they have never met or seen before in their lives. I doubt being "turned on" has much to do with it. They are performing sex acts.

Attributing it to being "turned on" presupposes they (in this case) are "turned on" by any and every white guy. You find that believable?

Like I said, it may not be overt racism but an attempt to not incite part of their fan base.

A porn guy may not like Asian chicks in real life but if you stick his performance fee in his face, he'll get his dick hard and fuck her just the same.

That's a good point. I highly doubt all the women Ron Jeremy fucked were turned on by him. I doubt the girls are really turned on by most of the guys they fucked.

And you're right. In many cases the actresses don't do IR because their boyfriends or husbands disapprove. I once read an amateur pornstar say that her husband used to film her getting gangbanged many times but he was always against her doing black guys. When she divorced him the majority of her scenes were with black guys.

Lastly, I've heard that "if she does interracial it will hurt her fanbase" argument before. But Belladonna has profited from porn more than any other pornstar (sans Jenna Jameson) and she's done tons of interracial porn.

Fucking on camera takes more talent then you think it does. If you are not good at it, the video will suck. :2 cents:

That's true. But just because the video sucks doesn't mean it won't sell. I can't tell you how many times I've read or heard a guy say, "Her scenes are more boring than watching paint dry but I like to watch her because she's cute". Don't underestimate the ability of a cute but boring pornstar to glide through the industry.

 

[Gordar]

But interracial does actually pay more. The main reason why these women are in porn is because of the money. So what reason other than a racial reason would a pornstar turn down receiving more money for doing interracial.

Does it? I don't know, as I;ve never taken a look behind the scenes. I do know that it's assumbed, but something that is assumed isn't always true.

Also, there is a lot of non-IR porn where women get treated like white trash all the time. I just watched Rocco Siffredi treating Jewel De'Nyle like absolute garbage in Animal Trainer 15. That's just one of the thousands of porno flicks where a white woman is degraded by a white man for the purposes of my twisted sexual gratification.:o

True and you'll also see that a lot of women don't do that kind of scene. There are also thousands of interracial scenes, but many of the women who won't do interracial won't do those scenes either.

Also, you're forgetting my last point and I've got another to add as well (see below)...

The female pornstar has to be asked by the company that makes the IR porn.

 

[J. Friday]

Nope, it doesn't botter me at all. If they do the shoot/scene, they get paid for it, if they don't do the shoot/scene, they don't get paid for it.

I don't care if it's a shoot/scene which involves anal, bukkake, interracial, etc.

Let's be honest, we don't know the details of what goes on behind the scenes (at least most of us don't). Maybe interracial pays less? In that case I can imagine girls saying no. I can also imagine girls saying no if they're not attracted to the guy or if they don't like a specific porn star's character.

Unless the girl in question doesn't want to have sexual intercourse with a lesser being and she considers men/women of a certain race to be lesser beings then no, it's not racism.

I know a lot about porn because I take an active interest beyond just being the casual viewer. I'd like to start my own porno website soon so learning about what goes on behind the scenes is something I try to do. Thus, I can say that through research, yes, IR porn does pay more. So the argument that it does not is false.

And the part I bolded is the very definition of racism. It's preposterous that you could say it is not.

This is from the Merriam-Webster definition:

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective

Does it? I don't know, as I;ve never taken a look behind the scenes. I do know that it's assumbed, but something that is assumed isn't always true.



True and you'll also see that a lot of women don't do that kind of scene. There are also thousands of interracial scenes, but many of the women who won't do interracial won't do those scenes either.

Also, you're forgetting my last point and I've got another to add as well (see below)...

The female pornstar has to be asked by the company that makes the IR porn.

And what if the girl is asked by the company, offered more money, but refuses, isn't that still racism? I'll answer my own question: yes.

 

[TwatDetective]

And the part I bolded is the very definition of racism. It's preposterous that you could say it is not.

He said the exact opposite of what you think he said.

And what if the girl is asked by the company, offered more money, but refuses, isn't that still racism? I'll answer my own question: yes.

Maybe they are just not attracted to black people, like some aren't attracted to caucasian, red head people with freckles, heavy-sey people, etc.

There is racism in the industry but not having sex with a black person isnt racism by itself.

 

[calpoon]

Like I've already said, what if interracial pays less or like someone else already said, in interracial porn the girls are often treated like white trash, what if they don't like that?

less pay would be a legitimate reason. As others have said there are many reasons that performer's might not work together and I agree that we shouldn't make assumptions. I'm mostly just talking about people that have came out and made the statement that they wouldn't do it- and my post was the response and feeling I get from that.

I think that IR is a lot of times racist, yes, and porn as a whole is often very sexist and degrading to women. But that's kind of another subject.

I've talked about some of these things and other perspectives on the other threads, I just wanted to kind of make a summery of the main points of my view on the subject here.

 

[0000]

What bothers me is that they don't want to have sex with me...

 

[TwatDetective]

White women do not want to have sex with me either.

In America, my own race is racist toward me. Pretty much want to pretend to be white.

A large portion only date white guys. No asian guys in porn.

Edit:

Not that Asian women cant be attracted to whites, but that Asians in my Chicago will actually be mad if you sit next to them or women will be mad about getting asked out because they don't want to draw attention to being Asian.

 

[Skyraider22]

It does not bother me I mean the reason that you have gave were pretty dumb I think but they have there on reasons so no:2 cents:

 

[J. Friday]

He said the exact opposite of what you think he said.



Maybe they are just not attracted to black people, like some aren't attracted to caucasian, red head people with freckles, heavy-sey people, etc.

There is racism in the industry but not having sex with a black person isnt racism by itself.

No, he said the exact opposite of what you think he said.

And about the not being attracted to certain people, that's a lot of bull. So you're telling me pornstars who only fuck white men are attracted to all the white men they fuck, guys like Ron Jeremy? Gimme a break. If she's able to fuck guys she's not attracted to in her own race then she can do it for other races too.

 

[Gordar]

No, he said the exact opposite of what you think he said.

And about the not being attracted to certain people, that's a lot of bull. So you're telling me pornstars who only fuck white men are attracted to all the white men they fuck, guys like Ron Jeremy? Gimme a break. If she's able to fuck guys she's not attracted to in her own race then she can do it for other races too.

Unless my friend :thumbsup: Twatdetective got it right.

 

[free4440273]

Doesn't bother me; it's at their discretion. Some of them love to work with black guys: Kayla Kleevage loves black cock, and also Sarah Young .