Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in head

[lurkingdirk]

Beck, Palin, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the rest of the far-right band leaders have continually screamed "socialist", used heated gun-rhetoric, and painted their political opponents as un-American. Like it or not they have created an environment that encourages the growth of human bacteria like Loughner and helped to incite the sort of violence perpetrated in Arizona. Just like when Bill O'Reilly continually referred to Dr. George Tiller as "Tiller the baby killer" which ultimately ended with Tiller's assassination by far-right lunatic Scott Roeder. People like Palin need to take responsibility for their reckless rhetoric and quit trying to shift blame on to people that recognize their vitriol.

Yes, they need to be held accountable. Does that mean they are responsible for a maniac shooting people? No.

Obama, in his pep rally in Tucson, just announced for the first time, the congresswoman opened her eyes and is aware of what happend to her and of her surroundings!

This is a great speech by Obama....this will be the hallmark speech of his presidency; in the vein of MLK!! :hatsoff:

I hope Sarah Palin is watching because soon, her eyes will be opened to the fact that her political career died w/ those 6 poor people!

Glen Beckberg....you are next!

Your rhetoric is dangerous, and not unlike what you are criticizing. Keep in mind I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just thinking we maybe need to be more cautious in the way we state things. Hateful language is hateful language. How about we strongly encourage those who use gun language to do better, and we help encourage them by doing the same ourselves?

 

[Straight Shooter]

How about we strongly encourage those who use gun language to do better, and we help encourage them by doing the same ourselves?

Yeah but the difference is that we don't have a platform where we can go and make our voice heard loudly. None of us have our own TV or radio show like these pundits and politicians so we don't have as much influence as they do just because we don't have that platform.

 

[PirateKing]

Yes, they need to be held accountable. Does that mean they are responsible for a maniac shooting people? No.



Your rhetoric is dangerous, and not unlike what you are criticizing. Keep in mind I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just thinking we maybe need to be more cautious in the way we state things. Hateful language is hateful language. How about we strongly encourage those who use gun language to do better, and we help encourage them by doing the same ourselves?

 

[DrSoles]

Another example of before we get all of the facts, blame the Tea Partiers. For those who remember the Times Square Bomb plot.



and the OOPS

 

[Ulysses31]

Childhood sweetheart of Jared Loughner speaks of his descent into madness

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...chool-love-split-sent-edge.html#ixzz1AsWnsfww


Glock sales soar nationwide after Arizona massacre

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-Loughner-Tucson-massacre.html#ixzz1AsX0Ertj

 

[alexpnz]

Yes, they need to be held accountable. Does that mean they are responsible for a maniac shooting people? No.



Your rhetoric is dangerous, and not unlike what you are criticizing. Keep in mind I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just thinking we maybe need to be more cautious in the way we state things. Hateful language is hateful language. How about we strongly encourage those who use gun language to do better, and we help encourage them by doing the same ourselves?

Thats your opinion and I respect it greatly...BUT, if you think my rhetoric is dangerous just how dangerous has Sarah Palin and her "crosshair" rhetoric become now??

My rhetoric is this way because I am angry that someone can put peoples name in crosshairs, come up with a retarded explanation for it and when the shit goes down LITTERALLY, all you people and Palin want peace all of the sudden!?

"help encourage", "to do better"...blah blah blah!
Tell that "help encourage" shit to Giffords husband or the 9 year old parents who have to bury their daughter because she was there visiting and standing next to her role model in politics and got caught in one of Palin's crosshairs.....

 

[lurkingdirk]

Thats your opinion and I respect it greatly...BUT, if you think my rhetoric is dangerous just how dangerous has Sarah Palin and her "crosshair" rhetoric become now??

My rhetoric is this way because I am angry that someone can put peoples name in crosshairs, come up with a retarded explanation for it and when the shit goes down LITTERALLY, all you people and Palin want peace all of the sudden!?

"help encourage", "to do better"...blah blah blah!
Tell that "help encourage" shit to Giffords husband or the 9 year old parents who have to bury their daughter because she was there visiting and standing next to her role model in politics and got caught in one of Palin's crosshairs.....

Yup, I not only understand your anger, I share it.

But, I'm still not going to participate in the same language. That's just my thing. You do you thing. I'll still smell your farts, and it will all be good.

But do remember that there are lots of people on all sides of this issue. Hateful language never helps, and doing it because someone else does is merely sinking to their level.

This is merely my :2 cents:, and I'm just shy of retarded. Feel free to simply disregard me.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Palin is real hot water for her choice of words, her 'blood libel' claim is very controversial. I'm sure she doesn't even know the history of 'blood libel'.

 

[Ulysses31]

Palin is real hot water for her choice of words, her 'blood libel' claim is very controversial. I'm sure she doesn't even know the history of 'blood libel'.

As controversial as now saying 'I hate violence. I hate war' when your previous motto has been "Don't Retreat, Reload" and sticking crosshairs on a target list (on the web for all to see) of lawmakers she wanted to see beaten and calling for Julian Assange to be hunted down and executed as an enemy of America not thinking that some unstable nut could see that as an invitation to kill those they see as a danger to the US.

 

[pete rose]

Palin's response was such a disingenuous, robotic, cliche pile of garbage. Stop talking Sarah Palin and stay in the icy tundra.

 

[Trident1]

I've never seen the left become so obsessed with one person, it's almost as if the whole lot needs a hobby or something. At this point the left is keeping Palin in the limelight.

 

[bustybbwlover]

aside from the joke palin, i've noticed a lot of blame being misplaced during this, the blame lies solely with loughner, the rhetoric may have gotten out of hand but the fact remains only one person was pulling the trigger...if he was really as fucked in the head he is being portrayed it's just too bad he didn't get hospitalized before all this happened

 

[Trident1]

aside from the joke palin, i've noticed a lot of blame being misplaced during this, the blame lies solely with loughner, the rhetoric may have gotten out of hand but the fact remains only one person was pulling the trigger...if he was really as fucked in the head he is being portrayed it's just too bad he didn't get hospitalized before this happened

The left has already stuck their necks out making Loughner some sort of patsy of Rush Limbaugh.
The guy is a nihilistic paranoid schizophrenic. The left (Olbermann, blogs, NYT etc.) wanted this guy to be the one who gets right wing radio, guns, Palin off the stage period. Big fail. I'm sure some on the left were disappointed not to find amongst Loughner's possessions a huge poster of Palin or autographed Limbaugh signature, or written orders from Hannity to commit murder. Instead they found the ramblings of a schizophrenic who needed to be institutionalized.

 

[bustybbwlover]

another aspect of this tragedy is a common one, everyone knew something was wrong with him and yet nobody seems to have helped, or perhaps everyone simply realizes in retrospect something was wrong with him now that he's done what he did

 

[Jon S.]

Just thank that icon of the neo-conservative movement......Ronald Reagan! He is the one who single handedly fucked up & dismantled the mental health system in the United States during his administration. Instead of being institutionalized in a State Hospital like he would have been in the good old days......too many people like this perp either go untreated, are warehoused in jail/prison (and don't get treatment), or, as is the case this time, they get arrested AFTER they injure innocent people!

Trust me, the conservative, small government, pro privatization movement isn't free of guilt and blame.......you only need to know where to look! Furthermore, unless this asshole lived under a rock, it's hard to believe he wasn't subjected to much of the hate filled rhetoric & vitriol that has become common in our public discourse today! Who can HONESTLY say that the hate filled words and images that have been so common over our airwaves didn't serve as the gasoline to his already burning fire of insanity? No one HONESTLY can!

Thanks again Ronnie......the "greatest" President this nation ever saw!

 

[pete rose]

I've never seen the left become so obsessed with one person, it's almost as if the whole lot needs a hobby or something. At this point the left is keeping Palin in the limelight.

i was making an observation. that's really "obsessive."

why would you even entertain the idea of defending her?

 

[Trident1]

i was making an observation. that's really "obsessive."

why would you even entertain the idea of defending her?

Please point to where I am defending her. I've never come to her defense. I have made a point that the left keeps her in the limelight because they are obsessed about her for some fucked up reason.

 

[Facetious]

Please point to where I am defending her. I've never come to her defense. I have made a point that the left keeps her in the limelight because they are obsessed about her for some fucked up reason.

Reason: As a means to secure barry o's second term in office perhaps?

Arizona shooting update: Jared Loughner used salvia says friend,
Analysis

In a video interview today with ABC, a high school friend of the alleged gunman behind the Arizona shooting massacre said that Jared Loughner had used salvia. Zach Osler spoke with Ashleigh Banfield and described how Jared Loughner had changed into someone he now describes as “looking like a monster.” Jared Loughner is accused of opening fire on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at a Tucson, Arizona public rally shooting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head at point blank range and wounding 13 others; six people died.

Represented by Judy Clarke, a death penalty expert who represented Susan Smith and the Unabomber, there is no doubt that Clarke will go for an insanity defense. It doesn’t appear it will be hard to do. Reports from Loughner’s friends and former teachers lay the foundation for someone mentally disturbed. Could Jared Loughner’s salvia use have triggered or exasperated an underlying case of schizophrenia?

Salvia Divinorum is a drug, legal in some states, and is a hallucinogen. Though proponents of the herb that is either smoked, chewed, inhaled, or its juice drunk believe salvia is safe, the National Institute on Drug Abuse NIDA says otherwise.

The NIDA says about Salvia, “People who abuse salvia generally experience hallucinations or “psychotomimetic” episodes (a transient experience that mimics a psychosis).

Full article

Wiki - Salvia

:rants: Reagan is to blame for loughner's actions! /rants :spin:
Just hopeless

 

[domshooter]

Childhood sweetheart of Jared Loughner speaks of his descent into madness

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...chool-love-split-sent-edge.html#ixzz1AsWnsfww


Glock sales soar nationwide after Arizona massacre

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-Loughner-Tucson-massacre.html#ixzz1AsX0Ertj

Glocks are really, really good fuckin guns. i know lots of cops who carry em, and i personally would love to have one or two.

 

[Hot Mega]

Please point to where I am defending her. I've never come to her defense. I have made a point that the left keeps her in the limelight because they are obsessed about her for some fucked up reason.

Yep. It was the 'left' who stood her up in all these '10 campaign rallies, herded into lines to buy her coloring book then propped her up with a mic in her face on Fox.

Did it ever once occur to you that we wouldn't be speaking about her now had the right left her to go back to Wasilla instead of parading her around as some kind of teabagger Joan of Arc in the last elections??

Now, that is their every right but it's silly (at minimum) to sit and try to fold her perpetual 15 mins. over on anyone else but those (including herself) who keep her in the media and nagging the rest of us with her cackle.