Immigration, Refugees, Asylum, Illegal aliens and everything in between

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I will wait for the final result of the election but what I am sure about is that his border policies aren't the same ones that joe had and that he has a much tougher stance regarding illegal immigration.
He talks a good game with immigration. Deploying the US military or National Guard to expel immigrants will be an interesting tactic. Where does he get the funds for this exercise? Or the legal authority?
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
We will again disagree because in the very same link I posted above https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/in_focus/3179048/democratic-party-illegal-parallel-immigration/ , there are three important things that you have neglected to say, I quote:
Point 1) "Importantly, every migrant in the U.S. due to Biden’s CBP One app and CHNV program is as illegal as Jose Ibarra, the illegal immigrant charged with killing Laken Riley. Ibarra was arrested for illegally crossing the southern border in September 2022 and released into the U.S. by Biden on parole. The legal authority used to release him where he could kill Riley is the same legal authority used to parole inadmissible aliens through the CBP One app and CHNV program. There is no legal difference between the two." that leads to the conclusion that the Biden Harris administration clearly doesn't give a single serious fuck even if an illegal foreign criminal alien enters the country illegally
You mention Laken Riley and that situation is pretty fucked up. The murderer should not have been paroled - we can agree there. He was paroled due to capacity issues at the El Paso CPC.

Laken was killed in Georgia in February 2024. According to a local Georgia TV station, nearly 80 children and teens have been killed in Georgia during 2024. Killed - presumably - by homegrown Americans. That issue should get the same attention in my opinion.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/th...eath-georgia-2024/QIIBSL6QKFGR3NQSNLDOCNUM6I/

Trump came to Colorado last week to speak in Aurora and he gave a nice speech at a resort. What did he not do? He did not show any personal courage by traveling to any areas impacted by immigration. He played it safe at the Gaylord!
 
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georges

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He talks a good game with immigration. Deploying the US military or National Guard to expel immigrants will be an interesting tactic. Where does he get the funds for this exercise? Or the legal authority?
I will ask you a rethorical question who let the border wide open and immigrants sneak into the country? The Biden administration is solely responsible for that. Maybe we can question of how were the funds managed during the Biden administration to preserve the southern border safety. But fact is that Joe didn't gave a single fuck about Border Patrol officers. And guess who was the endorsed and backed up as presidential candidate by the Border Patrol Union? Trump not Kamala
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I will ask you a rethorical question who let the border wide open and immigrants sneak into the country? The Biden administration is solely responsible for that. Maybe we can question of how were the funds managed during the Biden administration to preserve the southern border safety. But fact is that Joe didn't gave a single fuck about Border Patrol officers. And guess who was the endorsed and backed up as presidential candidate by the Border Patrol Union? Trump not Kamala
Answering a question by not answering it and asking another. 🤷‍♂️
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
A little immigration humor from a warmup act at Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden in NY:
“[Latinos] love making babies … They do. There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside. Just like they did to our country.”
 
While tump's "kick out all the illegals" platform sounds enticing, even if he gets elected, and even if he tries to push it through, there are huge practical roadblocks which are going to prevent it from getting meaningful implementation. And that's coming from me, someone who is against illegal immigration and actually agrees with tump's hardline stance.

We've talked about the sheer number of illegals, and how many of them are ingrained into society with American born kids, businesses, etc. It will be an administrative, legal and PR nightmare deporting them. You will go into debt paying for all the new enforcement staff and admin. You're also going to see another increase in illegals trying to get into Canada, and I can tell you that Canadian border officials will demand that US border officials beef up their northern border, because all those caught in Canada are just going to be sent back to the US per the Safe Third Country Agreement.

What would have been better is if tump gave a practical deportation plan. Like: I will immediately deport any illegal with a criminal record. Or illegals who only arrived in the past year or so and haven't laid down roots. This would get the target to realistic levels, and also put at ease the people who wouldn't be subject to the removals.

But to expect a rational, realistic and coherent political policy by him? Good luck on that.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
But to expect a rational, realistic and coherent political policy by him? Good luck on that.
We will see what happens over the next two years. The final House composition will dictate how much he can do. If his first term is any predictor, we will still be talking about it in 4 years.

Think of all the money saved by not caring for immigrants. We can spend multiples more deporting them. Who cares about the actual citizens impacted by the deportations? Collateral damage.
 
We will see what happens over the next two years. The final House composition will dictate how much he can do. If his first term is any predictor, we will still be talking about it in 4 years.
House is still in the air, but a GOP trifecta will let him run wild for at least 2 years. Let's see how that turns out.

Think of all the money saved by not caring for immigrants. We can spend multiples more deporting them. Who cares about the actual citizens impacted by the deportations? Collateral damage.
Hey, please care about Canada too! Where do you think all those people running from deportation are going to go?
 
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